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Post by Another 8MWR Fan on Sept 23, 2019 12:52:52 GMT
Undertaker vs Vladimir Koslov
Don't have Kozlov win clean against Taker.
Ever.
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Sept 23, 2019 21:07:48 GMT
Undertaker vs Vladimir Koslov Don't have Kozlov win clean against Taker. Ever. wasn't it just from an elbow too |
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Post by mrleedles on Sept 28, 2019 7:20:12 GMT
it was a countered Old School into a powerslam
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Sept 28, 2019 7:30:19 GMT
it was a countered Old School into a powerslam oh right And that wasn't even his finisher or signature right |
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Post by numerounobooker on Sept 28, 2019 7:38:42 GMT
it was a countered Old School into a powerslam oh right And that wasn't even his finisher or signature right Yeah it was just a normal move that I think he didn’t even use regularly |
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Sept 28, 2019 8:03:46 GMT
oh right And that wasn't even his finisher or signature right Yeah it was just a normal move that I think he didn’t even use regularly damn I don't even know what's worse That Vladimir didn't even become a star or that undertaker lost to a normal move |
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Post by mrleedles on Sept 28, 2019 9:33:22 GMT
listen, Kozlov had the build to be a star. Let's be entirely fair here, he actually looked menacing and could've been built well. Honestly, the only thing that got in the way was that, outside of having no manager when he desperately needed one, look at that world title picture at the time:
Triple H, Jeff Hardy in his career-defining main event push, The Undertaker, Edge. He had to stand out amongst those 4 other men, hell make it five with how hard they were pushing The Big Show at the time. If you don't remember, he had gotten wins over Undertaker, IIRC they were even CLEAN wins over him to really put over the knockout punch as a devastating finisher. For a crowd of that caliber, it would be tough for anybody to stand out but especially someone like Kozlov who desperately needed a mouthpiece at the time.
And, lemme play devil's advocate some more...Kozlov wasn't a bad in-ring worker. Was he green? Cluck yes, no doubt about it, but was he bad? No. He honestly was decent in the ring and had a menacing flair about him that really made him seem like a tough motherClucker, almost a prototype of what Rusev became in 2013. Besides, look at his team with Santino Marella, the two of them worked so well together and it wasn't all Santino carrying him. The guy was able to have funny moments and talk well enough, but it took time and it was time WWE didn't want to spend on Kozlov. If they gave him maybe another year before debuting him on the main roster he'd have a less tough crowd.
He'd debut roughly April 2009, and would ascend to main event September of same year. By then, Hardy is gone, Edge is hurt, HHH is back in DX, Jericho is w/ Big Show...etcetera, etcetera. The main event scene was, what, CM Punk and Undertaker? At most, he contends with those two and maybe Batista and Rey once finished with their feud. It would bring a menacing figure to the heel side of the main event scene, and could have led to some great matches.
So really, I don't blame WWE for trying to push Kozlov in the slightest...it just happened a year too soon. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
(edit note: why does it autocorrect swears now?)
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Post by branana06 on Sept 29, 2019 0:11:11 GMT
There was a huge controversay with me and a few people on the 8MW boards, so all curses are censored so we don't have another blowup again.
Thanks for understanding!
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Sept 29, 2019 2:10:38 GMT
I don't really think the problem was that Kozlov was getting pushed but that they tried to push him too far (or maybe it was just that he was in WWE)
And my memory of him is fuzzy but I remember that I liked him and thought that he could have multiple intercontinental title regins and Maybe a US title regin (speaking of the US title they should've kept the European championship as well so midcarders had another belt to go for)
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Sept 29, 2019 3:40:29 GMT
I just love how it's called A8MWRF's Rewritten Match but it just turned into a discussion about Kozlov
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Post by numerounobooker on Sept 29, 2019 4:44:06 GMT
I don't really think the problem was that Kozlov was getting pushed but that they tried to push him too far (or maybe it was just that he was in WWE) And my memory of him is fuzzy but I remember that I liked him and thought that he could have multiple intercontinental title regins and Maybe a US title regin (speaking of the US title they should've kept the European championship as well so midcarders had another belt to go for) Yes he did hold the ic and tag belts but that was after his match with undertaker which was his debut match |
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Post by mrleedles on Sept 29, 2019 4:47:08 GMT
no, he never held the IC Title. Only tag champs once with Santino
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Post by Another 8MWR Fan on Oct 1, 2019 11:26:09 GMT
Kozlov could've been good. He had potential. But WWE stuffed up. Now the list of clean wins against Taker will be forever stained by Kozlov.  |
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